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Sam

This is really exciting! As a 7 string player myself, I'm extremely curious about the end result of this project.

Rick Toone

Sam — Some local "test pilots" think the neck feels as small as a 6-string. Kept questioning me to make sure they heard correctly when I handed it to them and said: "Seven string."

Another exciting feature of this design is the multi-scale fretboard, combined with the neck core, should allow for detuning while maintaining a tight low end.

Can't wait to string it...

Sam

That's quite an impressive feat! Although I have quite large hands and enjoy the width of my 7 string neck, I can't think of a single 7 string neck that has come to compare with some of the more standard 6 string necks in ease of playability and comfort.

Further still, its usually a compromise of having a sweeter, smoother high end or a tight, punchy low end but with the use of a multi-scale...there is no need to choose.

Judging by the look of the grain, its ash, maple and hickory? I'm sure its going to sound monstrous yet so refined when complete. As I said, I'm very much looking forward to seeing/hearing the end result. Thanks Rick!

Rick Toone

Sam — Great eye, regarding woods! Not many would catch hickory, especially in b&w photos.

Curly maple neck with tri-compound hickory fretboard. Walnut position markers. Stainless neck core. Stainless frets. Swamp ash body. We wanted to use all local indigenous species.

Scale length is 26" treble (660mm Classical guitar) combined with 27.5" bass. Nut offset .25" with 1.25" offset at bridge.

Sam

I apologize for such a late reply.

Thank you very much for the compliment! I'm a bit of a budding luthier myself (or am trying to be) and have really taken to the holistic luthier artistry of both you and Ola Strandberg. That said a compliment from you is high praise indeed for me!

If I may ask, why the stainless neck core this time as opposed to the aircraft grade aluminum?

That puts your parallel fret around the third fret, correct? I could see that being ergonomically sound considering I find that is about where my finger and wrist go completely straight (while being relaxed and comfortable) when shifting chords.

Either and all ways, I am still exuberant over watching, reading and waiting for this project to reach completion.

Rick Toone

Sam — Stainless steel has increased stiffness in comparison to aircraft aluminum, i.e., for a given volume of metal, stainless requires more force to bend.

Because this neck profile is very slim (Ibanez Wizard) additional stiffness is useful to counteract the tension of seven heavy gauge strings. It is also an experiment.

The tradeoff is weight. Stainless is much heavier than aircraft aluminum. Neck weight can affect balance, unless the instrument is designed to take into account this consideration.

Third fret is approximately parallel. There is no need to be concerned with a "parallel fret" somewhere on the neck. Better to just let the maths work out as they must. I'm finding a pretty magical combination given the .25" nut offset with the 1.25" bridge offset (1.5" overall).

Your observations confirm...this fretboard layout mimics the natural ergonomics of the wrist when shifting chords.

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Neck Profiles


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    Patented ergonomic profile technologies. Licensing available.

Tuning Systems


  • Nut

    Intonation adjustable.

  • Bridge

    Ultimate tone and sustain.

  • Tuner

    Precise headless tuning.

  • Neck Core

    Aircraft aluminum neck core.

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